Qld rego rise

[irlewy86]

Originally Posted by atec77

I was told about 10% of Qld drivers are either unregistered and or unlicensed
I am willing to bet the percentage will skyrocket .

And a further 10% are still registered interstate to avoid paying the higher costs. A bit of enforcement on the issue and their wouldn't need to be the hike.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by noosacuda

Biggest unsolved mystery of all time-Why is rego dearer for a V8 than a 4 cyl???? Captain Nana Bligh(t) really SUCKS big time now!!! What do we get for our rego $$?

I would have thought the reasons for that were obvious... generally v8s weigh more, use more fuel, etc. That was the original reasoning and while its very general it does hold reasonable true.

I'm SOOO pleased when the GST (Get Stuffed Tax) was introduced that the greedy barstards dropped all stamp duties,levies,taxes and fees,including income tax because the GST would create enough revinue for the Government!
They always say that Joh was corrupt etc, BUT we had good health system and a budget consistently in the black back then,mind you other things weren't so wonderful,like the best cops money could buy! LOL!!

Uh the duties and taxes are still there... one of the reasons why health care in Australia (and indeed many other services) have declined in quality and quantity is due to federal governments on both sides using fiscal federalism to dictate how the states do things.

The states are very much reliant on the federal government for a large part of their funds.

As a subfield of public economics, fiscal federalism is concerned with "understanding which functions and instruments are best centralized and which are best placed in the sphere of decentralized levels of government" (Oates, 1999). In other words, it is the study of how competencies (expenditure side) and fiscal instruments (revenue side) are allocated across different (vertical) layers of the administration.

An important part of its subject matter is the system of transfer payments or grants by which a central government shares its revenues with lower levels of government.

Federal governments use this power to enforce national rules and standards. There are two primary types of transfers, conditional and unconditional. A conditional transfer from a federal body to a province, or other territory, involves a certain set of conditions. If the lower level of government is to receive this type of transfer, it must agree to the spending instructions of the federal government. An example of this would be the Canada Health Transfer. The second type of grant, unconditional, is usually a cash or tax point transfer, with no spending instructions. An example of this would be a federal equalization transfer.

[jjw]

jeez, Hunter, you are doing a great job of making a whole lot of sense on a topic that is all too easy to go for the 'a current affair' angle (after all, its always SOMEBODY'S FAULT, ya just gotta find WHO to BLAME : ).

Keep up the good work there buddy.

[*rayman*]

They should give you a discount if you are the registered owner of more than 1 car...

I have 2 x v8's to register, nearly a quick $2k each year for me....

[XR6_661]

As long as Fuel stays cheapish I have no problems with the hike. $50 extra over 12 months is better then paying $1.50p/L at the bowser over 12 months.

[OLDFORDNUT]

is this another rise on top of last months $50 increase?

[steamin63]

hunter you can put as much spin on it as you like but the truth is that bligh and her goons are economically retarded and have driven this state into the ground and we are paying for it. as for your argument that v8's weigh more and use more fuel is ridiculous. an average v8 weighs between 1600 and 1900 kg's, a 4 pot between 1200 and 1400k's [approximately] .fill the 4 pot up with 5 adults, fuel and luggage and it weighs as much as a v8 [my 2008 civic-1900kg's]. as for the fuel, gst+fuel excise= more than my fare share of tax. if you don't believe me do the sums. cheers.

[jjw]

I'd say the rising rate of rego per cylinders is simply a crude way of approximating the OWNER's CAPACITY TO PAY. Its been like that for donkeys so is not likely to change for the better now. The way the world is turning green, expect it to get WORSE for big capacity engines.

In terms of us paying for the economic management (or mismanagement) of Governemnts, that is absolutely correct. We as taxpayers do wear the results of our elected representatives efforts to manage the Government's finances. If the Government needs to balance its budget (for what ever reason it got unbalanced in the first place), the issue is who pays - either through which tax gets increased or which service gets reduced - there ain't a 3rd way...

If you don't like the choices the Govt makes, well you get to vote every 3 years and in the meantime, feel free to write a letter to your local MP and point out where they are going wrong - cause if we don't tell them, they won't know.

[csv8]

In Western Australia rego is based on the weight of the car. NO BS!!! So, an auto model of the same car costs more than a manual !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ltd_on20s]

Originally Posted by csv8

In Western Australia rego is based on the weight of the car. NO BS!!! So, an auto model of the same car costs more than a manual !!!!!!!!!!!!!

this just proves how broken the system is. we are not europe with a dozen different countries. we are one country with a heap of states with useless state governments who do nothing but double everything up, waste time with state by state red tape. the state govt should only be a caretaker govt making sure the funds go to the correctly allocated area's other then that the federal gove should be the one making all the rules. and all should be equal across the board.

like i said QLD'ers, get a couple of thousand drivers if you can to go and park in front of Blighs office for a few days. im sure every motorist out there will back you

[noosacuda]

WTF does weight have to do with it???? 6cyl & V8's pay more for fuel because of usage so that gives the Gov't more $$ anyway. The weight issue goes back to when roads were built from products that broke down easily and heavier vehicles caused more damage to them,so to cover repair costs they made motorists' pay.We have a 4 cyl shopping trolley,a V8 Sprint and my V8 Chrysler(fortunatly on historic rego)

[phillyc]

Maybe instead of being charged $900 odd for your registration, maybe the Qld government could scrap the 8c / litre fuel subsidy?

It would cost how many millions to keep feeding that scheme. Surely that is a better option?

[Jastel]

Qld is also putting up boat registrations supposedly to pay for more facilities like ramps etc, I will be amazed if one is built north of Brisbane...

The tax on Casino poker machines has also doubled from 10 to 20%

And a few weeks back the "Penalty Unit" went from $75 to $100, this covers many crimes. If a penalty was 10 Units for example, the fine is now $1000 not $750 like before.

It's getting expensive...

[Unco]

Originally Posted by Hunter

Yeah but you need to remember that rego itself hasn't increased for some time - the majority of the cost of 'rego' is CTP and that seems to be always going up. I view that with suspicion because it involves insurance companies who will never pass up an opportunity to hike their prices (even if unjustified).

you're spot on Hunter. one thing to remember, though, is that with the recent storms we have had all over QLD (and i'm specifically referring to the Jan/Feb storms up NQ, and then The Gap in the last month), insurance premiums will naturally go up to balance the cost of payouts.

[Hillbilly F Truck]

Originally Posted by steamin63

hunter you can put as much spin on it as you like but the truth is that bligh and her goons are economically retarded and have driven this state into the ground and we are paying for it. as for your argument that v8's weigh more and use more fuel is ridiculous. an average v8 weighs between 1600 and 1900 kg's, a 4 pot between 1200 and 1400k's [approximately] .fill the 4 pot up with 5 adults, fuel and luggage and it weighs as much as a v8 [my 2008 civic-1900kg's]. as for the fuel, gst+fuel excise= more than my fare share of tax. if you don't believe me do the sums. cheers.

Particularly the older v8's weigh a heap less than new cars. It's a shame there is no real opposition to Bligh(t) gov't. That Springboard has no original thought. All you hear him do is bag the other pary. I want to hear what he can do to change this state.

[Hardtopxb]

Last year in Qld it cost me $585.40,this year it cost me $728.80,next year it will cost me $822.80.Getting costly for a car Idrive twice a week..

[steamin63]

check out the courier mail 16/12/08 they have compared the rego cost's of every state and qld is by far the dearest.
current cost's in qld-4 cylinder $218.55, 6 cylinder $355.90, v8 $470.35
NT-4 cylinder $48,vic 6 cylinder $193, nsw v8 [2nd dearest] $383.
try and put some spin on that.
and that's not including next years increases.

[Hunter]

Um you forget that ours includes the CTP... like I said.

[steamin63]

Originally Posted by Hunter

Um you forget that ours includes the CTP... like I said.

um that's not including CTP [or traffic improvement fee].

[OLDFORDNUT]

how can you blame Insurance this time, have a look at your rego reminders and you will see the insurance only went up ten dollars 2 months ago but rego went up $40,no mention of this on news,now less than 4 months later we get about same increase and news media make a big deal (as they should)did no one notice the last increase?