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Old 24-05-2007, 07:59 PM   #1
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Default Pinging Issue yet again

Our dealer had the car for the day. The Ford engineers came out and went right over it. Apparently sometimes they find a faulty sensor that can cause problems and other times they find no reason for the pinging. However, they found no faults at all and said that the car is within specifications and that they cannot do anything else. They did suggest that we run it in 95RON which we already do. As far as they are concerned, that is it. It cannot be fixed! The pinging isn't that bad but it's a joke to think that even the Ford engineers can't fix it. Although in all fairness, at least they tried.

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Old 24-05-2007, 09:07 PM   #2
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Because it's euro buddy, it's not a falcon...LOL
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Old 24-05-2007, 09:32 PM   #3
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well as one of the other threads started by BlackLS sujusts maybee you should take it to them and tell em to either retard or advance the timing to fix it?

not sure... the thread should just be a couple down!
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Old 25-05-2007, 06:32 PM   #4
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well as one of the other threads started by BlackLS sujusts maybee you should take it to them and tell em to either retard or advance the timing to fix it?
But then you lose the brilliant fuel economy. (We got 6.2l/100km on a trip up to Mildura last weekend at 100km/h) We are happy with that.......Better than our previous petrol guzzler car (BA Falcon)
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Old 26-05-2007, 01:47 AM   #5
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But then you lose the brilliant fuel economy. (We got 6.2l/100km on a trip up to Mildura last weekend at 100km/h) We are happy with that.......Better than our previous petrol guzzler car (BA Falcon)
I'd rather retard the timing rather than rebuilding an engine.

Because you know, and I know that Ford ain't going to fix it even if you do run 95ron.
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Old 26-05-2007, 08:26 AM   #6
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Have you tried 98 & 100RON PULPs ? maybe those would fix the problem.
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Old 26-05-2007, 08:49 AM   #7
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It does, and I do this now(because of the advanced igntiton). But for a car that states its ok to run on 91 octane it shouldn't even be an issue.
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Old 26-05-2007, 06:10 PM   #8
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Have you tried 98 & 100RON PULPs ? maybe those would fix the problem.
I reckon it might work too but we haven't tried anything higher than 95 because it really doesn't ping that much on 95 so we aren't willing to pay a small fortune for 98. Besides, it's a bit hard to find where we live. We got rid of our Falcon to cut our fuel bill.......
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Old 31-05-2007, 11:17 PM   #9
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You might find the 98 octane will give better economy after a few tank fulls and help cover the costs. Better pay a few cents extra for fuel than be up for an engine rebuild!!!

All our cars run on BP Ultimate even my crappy old Feroza because it's prone to detonating.
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My car only pings up-hill when I press on the accelerator quite a bit, the engine pings twice and then down-gears to 3rd and doesn't ping until there is another up-hill.

I might be retarding the timing soon, fuel economy doesn't concern me much.
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:19 AM   #11
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I think outside of India we are the only country still using a 91 RON.... am I right?

We pay world parity prices at the pump and the local petro industries make massive profits yet they still refuse to update refineries to make the higher RON fuels.

govts are full of soft cocks on this issue.

Perhaps Focus would be happier with 98 - 100 RON which is freely available most other places.
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Ohh yea and with these petrol prices its really a good option
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:46 PM   #13
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I think outside of India we are the only country still using a 91 RON.... am I right?

We pay world parity prices at the pump and the local petro industries make massive profits yet they still refuse to update refineries to make the higher RON fuels.

govts are full of soft cocks on this issue.

Perhaps Focus would be happier with 98 - 100 RON which is freely available most other places.
Don't the USA use something like 87 or some rubbish?
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Old 03-06-2007, 11:57 PM   #14
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yeah they do have 87 over there.
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They use a different measure. Their 87 Octane is equiv to our 91RON Octane.
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Old 04-06-2007, 01:03 AM   #16
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Retard the timing a 1 or 2 two degrees at a time, run on a higher octane fuel, done.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:06 AM   #17
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They use a different measure. Their 87 Octane is equiv to our 91RON Octane.
Yes, their rating system is MON and our's is RON. Do a Google search and you'll find the difference- basically MON is a lot higher octane for the same numerical value.

Speaking of 98 octane has anyone else noticed the price creep since it was first intorduced? I've been using BP98 since it was first released and back then it was 6c / litre dearer, over the years it has now crept up to 10c / litre dearer than standard ULP.

Fuel companies profiteering again... :
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:28 AM   #18
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yeah, punk *** businesses trying to achieve profit growth.. how dare they! _


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Old 08-06-2007, 02:33 PM   #19
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Its called supply and demand. Demand for 98Ron is/has grown faster than supply so the price goes up. Happens everywhere
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exactly. People complain about the price of fuel, but continue to use copious amounts of it. as long as people will pay, prices will rise


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When I was last in LA I asked what ppl there use and my buddies tell me that only little old ladies use their 87 fuel and its not at all popular with modern cars and not always available anymore. they all seemed to use the 93 I think they said which is similar to our 98 and by far the most popular. They even had another higher rating than that which is similar to 100 RON. We are soooo left behind.

The price difference is measured in pennies too which is opposite to here.

Bring on E85 ASAP....
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