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the lastest in Corvettes.
be sure to check out the multimedia video as well. http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=9991 |
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0-60mph in 3.6secs, 1/4mile in 11.7. Damn thats awesome. Looks fantastic. A couple years ago there was a green Z06 coupe for sale in Canberra. If i had the money it would be as good as sold.
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Awesome car. Ford would have all sorts of trouble if HSV got their hands on that motor!
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I think if HSV got it they would use it to revive the GTS. They would probably make a coupe out of it aswell if the body shape is still around.
GM says that the 7 litre is for corvette Z06 only. I guess only time will tell. They things now, but what does the future hold? |
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They wouldn't build the 427 monaro , what makes you think they will build this ?
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427 Monaro is a bit different, here Holden has an engine off the shelf that meets emissions, gets good economy, makes 505hp and would slot in any Commodore without a fuss.
Holden would well and truely have an M5 killer on its hands.
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The Z06's weight helps it achieve those phenomenal times, but the car's got balls just the same. :king:
On a related note, I'm not sure that HSV will use the LS7 for their GTS either, given that GM will have a blown LS2 available (much cheaper than the LS7)... Quote:
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One of my all time favourite vehicle's is the Vette, especially the zo6, if I were to ever get a GM vehicle this would be it, it's sleak, fast and what a real muscle car should look like, oh and it perform's like one to.
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There's no reason why HSV could not get the GenIV LS7 for the next $100,000 GTS...
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...99&prmenbr=361 You can buy them brand new in a crate for a bargain at $12,999.99 USD. Now, the last GTS300 had a special US crate motor, the Callaway C4B LS1, to hit the magic 300kW (402 horsepower). So, stands to reason that if they make a new GTS, to fulfill their desire of being a real alternative to the M5 and E55 AMG, then importing a US crate motor to hit the magic 500hp (373kW) mark. Now, the VZ Clubsport R8 retails for $71,140. $12,999.99 US is $17,022.89 AU. $71,140.00 + $17,022.89 = $88,162.89. So if they made a GTS with the LS7, it would retail around the $98,000 - $100,000 mark. What would Ford do if HSV got their hands on 505hp and 485ftlbs of 427 cube Small-Block Chev? A few options... 1. Not compete. They were quite content over the years to leave GTS alone, and only target Clubsport. 2. Try to slap a blower on the Boss290.. to give it the urge to be competitive. 3. Get the new Shelby Cobra GT500's engine from SVT... 5.4, Supercharged, 450hp 450ftlbs (336kW 610Nm). Though I doubt HSV's will be getting LS7's any time soon, and same token for Supercharged 5.4 FPV's. Don't they have that "300kW Gentleman's Agreement" ?
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Steffo,
$13K USD is roughly $25-30K AUS here once import duty and conversions are factored in. I doubt HSV will go down the similar path as the Callaway C4B (rumoured $20K AUD) again. I am now beginning to understand what John Crennan was hinting when he made the comment 'embarassment of riches' in regards to future product. Perhaps, the HSV/PWR kit is also a pointer. I don't know for sure, I can only speculate.
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It would already meet emissions here and in Europe, since its sold in California, which has the toughest smog laws in the World.
Why would it need 'fitting'? Its the same external size as an LS2. Durability has already been done (on the engine and transmission) Fortuanatly for Holden most of the hard work has been done for them, granted they'll obviously still need to do testing, but it isnt anywhere near as much as if they were using a brand new engine.
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Nice looking Corvette. Still very easy on the eye. it's got some get up & go in the motor.
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Not too bad, actually looks capable as a daily driver. Can't wait for Lingenfelter to fiddle with this one (Lingenfelter got 700+hp from the previous 'Vette with twin-turbos)
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Nice car....can only keep dreamin of something like this
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I realise it is more complicated then just sticking an engine in and selling a car, but did I ever say it wasn't?? All I said was, it is quite possible for them to use the LS7 and sell it in a car here, dollars wise. Its not that expensive an engine, and it is easily available to them. ![]()
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Two words why this engine wont end up in the commodore... "SuperCar Scare"
Scruby etc would have a fit if an Australian manufacturer releases a 500HP Car.
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Abotu time..
I've been saying Corvette make the best car in the world bar none for the past 15 years or so... now I have proof. (yeah yeah yeah Bugatti have a 405km/h verion but it's worth 3GAZILLION dollars - and Porsche have compariably quick cars, but for the price of a Vette you cant beat 'em) |
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As far as the debate about wether or not the LS7 could make it to Australia put it this way:
Back when the C5 Corvette was being realied (around 1997) Holden were VERY seriously considering re-badging and bringing the Vette out as a Holden model. Rumors in Wheels mag, etc at the time stated that the project was so serious Holden had already designed the badges to go on the "Holvette". If you ask me it would be blasphemy to put a Holden badge on a Corvette but so long as they came from the factory RHD I'd buy one in a heart beat. |
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actually i remember something about holden having a new project car that is like the corvette. this engine may just be used in it.
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As for fitting, the location of airbox etc. would be different. Durability would need to be done on diff, clutch setup etc as they would be different from the Vette due to there different body designs. |
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not a bad machine at all,saw it on fox the other week where they had a head to head with the new viper,the corvette held with the viper around twisties but not in a straight line though
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The Z06 with LS7 would swallow, chew up and spit out a Viper. Nothing but a twin-turbo Porsche would touch it... as far as mass produced production cars are concerned.
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going around the track they were both power sliding around the corners. Im not sure though that the ls7 would chew and spit out a 8.3 litre 383kw v10 though
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8277cc V10 500hp (373kW) @ 5600rpm 525ftlbs (711Nm) @ 4600rpm 6000rpm redline 0-60mph (0-100km/h): 3.9 sec 0-100mph (0-160km/h): 8.3 sec 1/4 Mile: 11.77 sec @ 123.6mph (197.76km/h) Top Speed: 190mph (304km/h) http://www.fast-autos.net/dodge/dodgevipersrt10.html 2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 7000cc V8 505hp (377kW) @ 6300rpm 470ftlbs (637Nm) @ 4800rpm 7000rpm redline 0-60mph (0-100km/h): 3.7 sec 0-100mph (0-160km/h): 7.9 sec 1/4 Mile: 11.5 sec @ 127mph (203.2km/h) Top Speed: 198mph (317km/h) http://www.fast-autos.net/chevrolet/chevroletc6z06.html You sure it won't beat the Viper? ![]()
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