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Teki, I'll try and give you an explanation from my perspective
The first thing to understand is you're not buying an XR5 as and out and out sportscar, instead you're looking for something which you can daily drive and that has a bit of zip. After spending the last 6 or so years in cars without cruise I did about 5000km over the christmas break and having cruise was a godsend. While I would still be happy to get a genuine sportscar that didn't have cruise for a car like this (fundamentally a daily driver) for the money they're asking it's a pretty glaring admission. I know personally I'll certainly take the GTI over the XR5 when the time comes and the lack of cruise control will be the main reason. |
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I do ALOT of highway Ks also... mainly to get to twisty roads! Now, in all the highway driving i do - I don't see many GTIs. Why? Because most are in the City; where you DONT use CC. So, your willing to pay $5,300 for cruise control... yet still have a worse off car. To be honest - I'd even have a Megane 225 Turbo Cup over the GTI. Especially in the Blood Orange with black rims; more looks then the GTI and definetly unique! Most people that would buy the XR5T (i think) will be people that live in the city. And, surely they are comparing the XR5T vs GTI vs 225T vs WRX. The XR6T doesnt fit here.... ***EDIT*** Not to turn this into a Poll - But do you drive an auto omg?
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I don't drive an auto, never have, never will. If it helps you understand where I come from I spent the weekend driving 2500kms of back country roads from sydney to queensland (with no aircon btw) for no other reason but to go for a drive. It would be a mistake of monsterous proportions to continue the line of thought you have there
It's not so much that I'm willing to pay 5300 for cruise (trying to break it down to this level is a bit silly really) but when I'm buying a daily driver I have some minimum requirements and I will make a bang for buck judgement on the available cars which meet those requirements. Cruise control is simply one of those requirements and given the current law enforcement practices in australia (and mumblings about things like average speed cameras) I don't think I'm alone in this thought when looking for a car in this class. I'll cop the reliability issues for the nice suspension in the cheap shopping trolley, I won't cop a lack of cruise in a more expensive car when it's very worthy competitors have it. |
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Pity it hasn't got cruise avaliable, but it will not stop me from getting one... HID lights would have been nice to have as well but at the price its still great value, and with great build quality... something you can't really say about Falcons
![]() As far as complaints that its not avaliable well cruise isnt very popular in europe and Ford of Europe decided that it wasn't worthwhile engineering it for the Focus ST (XR5T) ad therefore it's not avaliable here. Ford of Aus would have zero chance of getting it specially engineered for our tiny market.. Although I wonder how difficult it would be to fit the cruise control setup off of a current model S40 T5. Uses same drivetrain, ECU etc as the ST/XR5T. |
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![]() The XR5 T is going to be a nice car, but for nearly 40 grand and with the few issues like no cruise control its really not the best proposition on paper.
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On that note - I hope you know the GOLF GTI COMES FROM SOUTH AFRICA - funny, where the LS Focus model you have comes from....
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Yeah they are coming from Germany's Saarlouis plant... The number that will be sold here wouldnt be enough for them to modify the plant in South Africa to suit building it there for a start.
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Also - Matt, your married to the Focus - which is why it suits your lifestyle
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#44 | ||
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Hey guys,
Just thought i would let you all know that CRUISE CONTROL is STANDARD on XR5T I received the information from Ford Direct! Hope this makes some of you very happy Enjoy - |
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After driving my dads auto AU Fairmont for 5 years I can say that I have rarely if ever used the cruise control. Considering almost all my freeway travel is restricted to Westgate/Ringroad adventuring without a single ticket (miraculous considering the japanese tourist bus levels of photographic equipment installed on the things), I can say confidently that cruise control wont be missed, not was it a factor in my decision making process.
My car will be arriving in May. Sea Grey, black leather recaros. Rowwwarrrrrrr. Only 73 more sleeps! |
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#46 | ||
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Sorry xr5chick but you're dead wrong. It was not even engineered for the ST in Europe. If you got this info from someone at the Melb Motorshow then they were wrong. It was also not fitted to either vehicle at the motorshow, nor the vehicle I drove on the weekend. Cruise control is not an option on the ST or the XR5 Turbo (same vehicle essentially). Apologies for jumping on this but I didn't want another 15 people to start posting in excitement.
NO CRUISE.
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#47 | ||
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Well, the fact that cruise is not fitted to the vehicle will not stop me from getting one. Should have it organised by the end of the week... Hopefully.
Panther black with leather recaros, should be awesome. Cheers, Steve |
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Well, since everyone is going to buying one. I'm going to buy one too. Performace Blue with cloth seats.
Cheers, Adam |
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#49 | ||
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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I am SORRY zetec,
You are WRONG AGAIN??? I have first hand knowledge that they ARE/HAVE CRUISE CONTROL!! As i have driven one also and NO it was not at the Melbourne Motor Show as well as work with them everyday!!! Unlucky!!! So to put you all to rest and to asure you that the Focus XR5T will have Cruise Control as STANDARD I have attached a pic of the centre of the dash - If you look to the right hand side you will see the steering column stalk with the button for CRUISE saying Set/Reset... Zetec Are you now going to tell me that it is a 4 cyl not a 5 cyl :Reverend: hahaha Apologies for jumping on this but I didn't want another 15 people to start posting about there disappointment of Cruise.. Just Keep on CRUISING !!! :eclipsee_ |
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#51 | ||
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Yeah sorry to say it but I have to agree with Lagom in that it's the trip computer stalk and unfortunately it's not a cruise stalk. If your photo said CRUISE anywhere, I'd eat my shorts.
Ford also does not use a stalk-operated cruise control module in really any of it's current models, that's more of a Japanese manufacturer or even a Holden trait. Anyway, let's just not turn this into a fight, we, obviously can't solve it here so I'll back down here and just wait until launch cars are sitting at Dealers for confirmation, let's just all get along and be happy that the XR5 T is still such a beast, cruise or not!!!!!
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Classic XR5 Chick.. Sorry but your wrong, lol ИИИИ stirrer. Plus ZETEC is ford, so i think he would know.
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#53 | ||
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I am not Ford nor do I represent them.
I have been following the car closely since launch in Europe, there is nothing on cruise ANYWHERE in the UK on Ford's website, I learnt at Motorshow that cruise is not available and I have now driven one without it. I will be very happy if cruise is standard but everything I have been told and seen so far leads the other direction. Still won't stop me wanting one! XR5 chick, welcome anyway, apologies for the other than warm welcome but we're a passionate bunch as you can see!!!!! I take it you're pretty keen on one?
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after having the 4 speed auto in the XR6T i'm looking forward to 'driving' the XR5T so cruise whilst would be a nice luxury, i'll survive without...
It just better impress me as much as it has Zetec! |
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#55 | ||
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Visiting a Ford dealer in the UK recently, apparently all 2006 Focus will have cruise as an option. I didn't check on the ST, but until the 06 range, you could only get cruise on the Ghia as standard fitment and you couldn't option it on any other model (not even the more expensive Titanium model). I'll be looking into the ST more seriously for myself in around 6 months, so will keep you posted.
Personally, I don't think it's a computer issue with this Focus (as it was in the previous model), but more of a lack of demand thing... in the UK anyway. I drove a top of the line Mark IV Golf V5 the other day and it had a cassette deck and no cruise... they really do spec some of their cars quite low here. |
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Yeah stereos aren't that huge over in Europe, they're more of an optional thing rather than a compulsory 4 speaker CD etc like with Aussie cars.
Again, we shouldn't need cruise control in Australia, they don't need it in Europe like we do here. Interesting that it's standard on all but CL here, even then it's still an option at least. Will have to wait to see with the XR5.
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#57 | ||
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Well it did have a 6 disc changer, I was just stunned to see a cassette deck in such an expensive car!
I use cruise control in the UK, but the roads are often so congested that it can be frustrating to use an underdeveloped system (Vectra is awful in this way). |
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