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Old 22-10-2016, 11:04 PM   #1
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Now before you all lynch me, I LOVE superchargers nearly as much as I love V8 Falcons. Now I will probably never own a blown FG XR8 so I have been drooling over all the YouTube reviews from the usual car mags aswell as my personal favourite, the greatest driver in our land, John Bowe trying to hit 300km in a Herrod prepared Falcon. Now, one of these tools who compare the new R8 to the XR8 Sprint reckons the noise from the blower is no good and the holden is a better car. I can't believe any petrol head regardless of car brand, would say they prefer a V8 without a blower, seriously... Did this guy miss Mad Max I when he was a kid? The scene as the movie opens coming down on to the highway as the blown black coupe comes into view, the sound is one of life's pleasures.One of the reasons I love the performance Fords over the Holdens is the XR range was always unique and they all have something not on the rest of the range. The last Falcon does it again. Sticking with a great motor and developing it I prefer to just upping the capacity. Just my 2 cents. Long live the Windsor 5.0
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I'm pretty sure the falcon clocked 297.
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I'm pretty sure the falcon clocked 297.
And I'll quote myself by saying the only mod on the gtf was the removal of the speed limiter.
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And I'll quote myself by saying the only mod on the gtf was the removal of the speed limiter.
Not quite.

They replaced the standard driveshaft with stronger driveshaft as a precautionary measure.

If it had an intercooler likely would have cracked 300 in the heat....
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Not quite.

They replaced the standard driveshaft with stronger driveshaft as a precautionary measure.

If it had an intercooler likely would have cracked 300 in the heat....
But they didn't and John bowe still clocked 297 which is a solid effort
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Your both spot on re mods. Just removed the limiter & a stronger d,shaft. Yep, 297 but how about those helicopter shots of the falcon and the blower whine. oh yeah.
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Holden fans, what can you do but laugh.

Supercharged V8s are the most badass engines around. They sound fantastic.
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I can't believe any petrol head regardless of car brand, would say they prefer a V8 without a blower, seriously...
I'm a petrol head and can honestly say I'd prefer a V8 without a blower and with two hairdryers instead like the Euro V8's.


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One of the reasons I love the performance Fords over the Holdens is the XR range was always unique and they all have something not on the rest of the range. The last Falcon does it again. Sticking with a great motor and developing it I prefer to just upping the capacity. Just my 2 cents. Long live the Windsor 5.0
Obviously you forgotten about the GM supercharged V8's and that Holden actually put some of their development money into also improving the driver and passenger creature comfort/tech experience.
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The comparisons I was watching the holden was n/a vs the s/c ford. I don't pay any attention to holdens to be honest, I am an unashamed Ford snob.

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Mines only a V6 mang mobile but I'll never get tired of that whine.
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Top speed was 293km/h so they removed the rev limiter as well then made 297km/h.
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I can't believe any petrol head regardless of car brand, would say they prefer a V8 without a blower, seriously... Did this guy miss Mad Max I when he was a kid?
I prefer N/A engines, for many reasons.
That's not to say I dislike forced engines, I just prefer N/A.

As for sound, I think not much can match a very high revving N/A Cleveland.

Not bad for the early 80's...

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I prefer N/A engines, for many reasons.
That's not to say I dislike forced engines, I just prefer N/A.

As for sound, I think not much can match a very high revving N/A Cleveland.

Not bad for the early 80's...

Same here. I prefer N/A. Both have pros & cons. I don't like them, whine is cool, but for me the novelty would wear out, same as a blow off valve on a turbo car. I wouldn't go out of my way to own a blown car. Their badass, but not the greatest thing on planet either. Well all have tastes, and that's how arguments start....

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Same here. I prefer N/A. Both have pros & cons. I don't like them, whine is cool, but for me the novelty would wear out, same as a blow off valve on a turbo car. I wouldn't go out of my way to own a blown car. Their badass, but not the greatest thing on planet either. Well all have tastes, and that's how arguments start....

In the end it's all opinion and choice.
Yip- everyone has their own take.

I use my FGX XR8 as a daily, and really only hear the whine when I boot it- and never get bored with it.

Drove my brothers AMG C63 for a week- and really missed the front end mechanical cacophony of the Miami blower quad cam.

Miami is like being in the middle of a 3 some, non blown is like vanilla 2 some- not saying this from experience of the analogy- more wishful dreaming......
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Couldn't care less about the whine, it's not that loud and certainly not intrusive. Most of the time it's in bypass mode anyway.

I love the power delivery though.
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Couldn't care less about the whine, it's not that loud and certainly not intrusive. Most of the time it's in bypass mode anyway.

I love the power delivery though.
Same here love the S/C doing its thing better than the wife whining in the passenger seat
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Yip- everyone has their own take.

I use my FGX XR8 as a daily, and really only hear the whine when I boot it- and never get bored with it.

Drove my brothers AMG C63 for a week- and really missed the front end mechanical cacophony of the Miami blower quad cam.

Miami is like being in the middle of a 3 some, non blown is like vanilla 2 some- not saying this from experience of the analogy- more wishful dreaming......

Those piddly sounding AMG C63’s don’t come close to the sound of a blown Miami.

My ears always prefer the sound of a worked over naturally aspirated V8 over anything else and even more so if that is an old school V8.
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Those piddly sounding AMG C63’s don’t come close to the sound of a blown Miami.

My ears always prefer the sound of a worked over naturally aspirated V8 over anything else and even more so if that is an old school V8.
Thing is his is the sports pack version, ie more free flowing exhaust, and he has extractors as well- so it is really LOUD and aggressive. If you pump the pedal a little before hitting the start button the engine start up sounds like a big bore 500 nitro express rifle cracking its load.

The Miami on start up sounds xxxx beer weak to be honest.

Also, WOT the C63 is deeper and more aggressive than the Miami, although the Miami over 4,000 WOT has a real pushed edge to the exhaust note which is cool.

But, the C63 does not have that supercharger banshee wailing up front, and to me it is Nirvana, the bark behind and the mechanical banshee wail up front WOT- is a unique sound.

Everyone is different- I love the sound of high tech v8s with quad cams and 4 valves, and a supercharger banshee wailing is just an extra cherry on top.

And I have been in cammed supercharged Holden V8s, and although deep and loud from the rear, they do not produce that banshee high tech wail that a Miami does.

The Miami with the quad cam 4 valves and supercharger intake plenum arrangement is something special....in terms of sound up front. Nothing quite like it.

First day I bought my car I uhmm tested it round the Lake that night for uhm some time. The salesman who sold it rang me at work next day, asking - was that you last night at 10.30 - hard to mistake that sound...he lived in Eleebana and recognized the sound...just a classic unique tone.
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Yip- everyone has their own take.

I use my FGX XR8 as a daily, and really only hear the whine when I boot it- and never get bored with it.

Drove my brothers AMG C63 for a week- and really missed the front end mechanical cacophony of the Miami blower quad cam.

Miami is like being in the middle of a 3 some, non blown is like vanilla 2 some- not saying this from experience of the analogy- more wishful dreaming......
6.2 or 4.0TT?
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6.2 sports pack, extractors. In manual paddle shift mode it does sound wicked from the rear end, especially on the software mapping rev matching on downchanges....had the sunroof open at all times.
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Blown v8 sounds great, particularly while loaded up a gear higher than what's ideal, or in the right warm evening conditions where it sings away just like a turbo, but I'd happily have a high (or low) powered atmo v8.
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The novelty doesn't wear out, but sometimes I wonder if it's the blower or the dif making the noise. The instant punch also doesn't wear out. Tyres do though.
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The blower sound is subjective to a degree...............the wife recons my stock FG GTP sounds like a sewing machine when you get up it . Her other bench mark for engine sound is usually mechanical cammed Clevelands which might explain this.

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IMO Super charger whine is like having an exhaust dropped before he diff...cool for a little while, but can get annoying pretty quickly.

We all have a different tolerance threshold I guess.

Remember every monkey fitting gear drives to their V8 in the 80s / 90s
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Remember every monkey fitting gear drives to their V8 in the 80s / 90s
Having a gear drive in my SBC back in the early 90's made the young boys wet their pants and delve even deeper into Daddy's wallet when it came time to sell.

Engine noise is definitely an aphrodisiac for some and an old school cammed N/A with a free flowing exhaust still gets my juices flowing.
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Having a gear drive in my SBC back in the early 90's made the young boys wet their pants and delve even deeper into Daddy's wallet when it came time to sell.

Engine noise is definitely an aphrodisiac for some and an old school cammed N/A with a free flowing exhaust still gets my juices flowing.
I remember a bunch of mates who loved their red motor powered EH & HR sedans who all got gear drives, they loved em! Back in the days when K-mart sold 12 slotters and super, (petrol), cost $0:45 per/l. I had a RS2000,ported & cammed with twin 45mm Webber's and I often used $100 p/week on petrol!
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G'day....Coming from a N/A only owner...I would love either a supercharged V8 Falcon or a 6 Turbo..no logical reason because my FG XR6 is plenty enough in practical reality and ol faithful AU too...
BUT.....Owning a genuine supercharged V8 or I6T would be freakin' awesome fun...Cheers Rod..
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I barely notice the supercharger whine when driving in a normal manner, in traffic or on the freeway it is there but not loud or annoying. It only really starts to sing from 3000rpm onwards. But I don't daily my GT so my perspective may be skewed compared to someone who's in theirs 10 hours a week of more.
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Apples and oranges; but I much prefer the ride in both my mates' gts' (ve3 and vf1) than my f6 or any other fpv
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They sound great at full noise - I wonder if that has anything to do with the performance factor - and even better if it's bolted onto an engine with some serious testicles.

But If you want a constant-overpowering-whine, just marry Shazza.
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