Defected!

XCwillo · 17-03-2012, 09:25 AM

Just wondering guys...
I got defected last night for having a chrome air cleaner (crank case vented through carby spacer plate) and having a shorter exhaust then what the car originally came out with :\

Anyone else been defected for having extremely common muscle car mods? hah :|

jrfttf · 17-03-2012, 09:32 AM

seems to be no matter what you have these days your not safe, i personally don't know anyone who has been pinched for it but have heard around the traps they are more than happy to pinch you for stuff like that.

Out of curiosity was the air cleaner sticking through the bonnet?

**cs123** · 17-03-2012, 09:43 AM

Very common to be defected in the 80s for pollution related mods. You car should have EGR so I am surprised they didn't get you for that.

PCV is suppose to be connected to manifold, perhaps you are thinking of your breather. That is suppose to connect to the air cleaner.

**EASYBOSS** · 17-03-2012, 09:52 AM

Just had a quick flick through your build thread, nice plate.

As for being defected, not much to say about that apart from you look like a police target

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 09:55 AM

occupational hazard.. rectify faults.. clear defects.. win...

XCwillo · 17-03-2012, 10:10 AM

Air cleaner doesnt stick through the bonnet no :p
And CS123 the PCV valve is running normal but the crank case ventilation return line, instead of running into the air filter like it does with the stock cleaner, runs back into the manifold (does the same thing essentially) because the after market chrome air cleaner doesn't have a snout for it.

Will be spending today getting it back to immaculate condition, told the cop i'd have it back on the road by Monday and he gave me a smartass "yeah like to see you do that pal"
I'll show him! *shakes fist*

**cs123** · 17-03-2012, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

Will be spending today getting it back to immaculate condition, told the cop i'd have it back on the road by Monday and he gave me a smartass "yeah like to see you do that pal"
I'll show him! *shakes fist*

He may be right. I'd be worried what happens when you take it to where ever to get the defect cleared that they do not find other problems. You should have EGR, charcoal canister and oil breather/PCV connected. I am not sure how well it would run with that breather hose connected to the manifold vacuum either.

If you have a holley try and grab a factory air cleaner of a 4 barrel V8 and use it. Then it should have connections for the charcoal canister and breather. You can probably also grab some plastic elbows from a auto store and modify your chrome air cleaner.

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 10:27 AM

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He may be right. I'd be worried what happens when you take it to where ever to get the defect cleared that they do not find other problems. You should have EGR, charcoal canister and oil breather/PCV connected. I am not sure how well it would run with that breather hose connected to the manifold vacuum either.

If you have a holley try and grab a factory air cleaner of a 4 barrel V8 and use it. Then it should have connections for the charcoal canister and breather. You can probably also grab some plastic elbows from a auto store and modify your chrome air cleaner.

would be doing this.. the more standard you can make it present.. the less they may look for..

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 10:23 AM

just like getting a smack off your mum really..

stings a bit at first.. then you get over it....

good motorvation to get those horns, reverse lights, washer bottles and heaters working.....

Jim Goose · 17-03-2012, 10:24 AM

Shorter exhaust??

Where does it exit?

And how do they know how far past the bumper bar it exited when new?

Many years ago I got done (QLD) for having my exhaust pipes TOO long.
They were about an inch past the bumper bar.
The rules say you cant have any protrusions past the bumper which means ALL cars fitted with towbars are illegal. Anyhoo I didnt argue with him (Transport officer) and i cut an inch off the tail pipes and went into the Queensland Transport office to show them.. The lady at the counter looked at me weird and then appollogiesed!!! as she realised how stupid the defect was (it was just the officer flexing his authority).

Some aircleaners do come with a seperate plastic hose attach bit, which needs to be pop riveted to the aircleaner. But yea it doesnt matter where it goes as long as it goes back into the combustion chamber surely..??

302 XC · 17-03-2012, 10:46 AM

Exhaust can exit out the side of a ute, thats legal, yep on utes it doesnt need to exit at the rear, check QLD DOT website the info is there

VioletGT · 17-03-2012, 10:53 AM

Fix it, get it back on the road and then wait until the next time. Cat and mouse. Tom and Jerry.

csv8 · 17-03-2012, 11:48 AM

And the rozzers wonder why we have no respect for them....

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 12:11 PM

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And the rozzers wonder why we have no respect for them....

i still do.. 99% of the po po you get no trouble.. treat them with respect.. dont make their job hard and you will be surprised what you can get away with.....

dont forget.. there may be that time in your life.. it will be them that you call..

mik · 17-03-2012, 11:51 AM

nice uterus, that`s bad luck mate, maybe you could run the ventilation hose to the bottom of the air filter/ wack a chrome tip on the exhaust to bring it out a bit further?, don`t worry mate if you`ve only been defected once your doing well

falconnut · 17-03-2012, 12:04 PM

Funny how alot of coppas think they are mechanics, they are not.

xisled · 17-03-2012, 04:10 PM

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Funny how alot of coppas think they are mechanics, they are not.

End of the day, the cops are not mechanics and the reason you are defected is that they suspect your car to be not roadworthy. You then take it to a qualified mechanic to get the car checked over.

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 04:16 PM

theres a few basic rules you stick to.. especially when it comes to ADRs...

older the car the better.. stick to the basics.. play it right.. you can end with a nutter street car....

ive got an old bomb that can pull the wheels off the deck.. all totally legal....

Auslandau · 17-03-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

theres a few basic rules you stick to.. especially when it comes to ADRs...

older the car the better.. stick to the basics.. play it right.. you can end with a nutter street car....

ive got an old bomb that can pull the wheels off the deck.. all totally legal....

And the older the driver also makes it all a bit easier ..... I think I get more WTF's and a bit of a chuckle by Mr plod sitting at the lights than anything else. Dont do anything stupid and stay clear from large gatherings that will cause attention to you is a start. Not the be all and end all though but mine isn't exactly 'legal' ... noise and wheels (295 rear is close to 50mm over std???) .... oh ..... and the odd time the NOS has been accidently been left connected ... no biggy

Knox the other night though was over top and shouldn't be hit like that with the police and EPA .....

csv8 · 17-03-2012, 01:17 PM

pottery beige ,when they stop doing stupid things like breath testing hospital staff as they leave work!!!! RBT just down the road from my hospital!! and they breath test staff leaving !! what a waste of money!! then they might get my respect.

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

pottery beige ,when they stop doing stupid things like breath testing hospital staff as they leave work!!!! RBT just down the road from my hospital!! and they breath test staff leaving !! what a waste of money!! then they might get my respect.

soooooo...

just because you work in a hospital...

have just finished work...

are exempt from RBTs...

you may be half cut.. for all they know.....

mytgxl · 17-03-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

pottery beige ,when they stop doing stupid things like breath testing hospital staff as they leave work!!!! RBT just down the road from my hospital!! and they breath test staff leaving !! what a waste of money!! then they might get my respect.

You may have been sucking on the alcohol swabs lol

jaydee · 17-03-2012, 06:15 PM

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pottery beige ,when they stop doing stupid things like breath testing hospital staff as they leave work!!!! RBT just down the road from my hospital!! and they breath test staff leaving !! what a waste of money!! then they might get my respect.

About 2 years ago they set one up right outside the Police Academy and randomly selected recruits for breath/drug tests.
I can't see the big deal with it.
There's plenty of people who drink on the job, nurses/ Dr's included. And dont tell me staff don't take something from the medicine cabinet to get through their shift. I have the utmost respect for hospital staff, they have a job to do just like coppers, working bad shifts and putting up with the rabble and poor pay.
Build a bridge...

2011G6E · 17-03-2012, 08:16 PM

I think they should set up more RBT's...the more ****heads off the road, the better.

Back to the mods...no, police aren't mechanics, but they aren't idiots either. They suspect something is illegal, but they're not sure, they send you over the pits. They won't just take your word for it and let you go.
Read the ARD's carefully, and you'll be surprised what you can get away with. And there's nothing sweeter than being pulled over and inspected and having nothing wrong with your car...

atec77 · 17-03-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

Just wondering guys...
I got defected last night for having a chrome air cleaner (crank case vented through carby spacer plate) and having a shorter exhaust then what the car originally came out with :\

Anyone else been defected for having extremely common muscle car mods? hah :|

Sounds like he had nfi at all , simply run the vent back into the cleaner or replace it which I expect you have done , being a ute you can drop the exhaust against the rear wheel because it's venting the minimum distance from the last opening window , you need a copy of the rules to prove this , it cannot dump under the car so you may need to add a bend , dump behind the wheel will be better if you can , I got pulled the other day in the beemer and all they did was oh and ah , it's all legal inspite of pushing the limits (runs 18 x 9" wheels and large rubber )
and I am older

(first thing he said was " I thought you might have run " to which I made a smart comeback , good luck with it

**GasoLane** · 17-03-2012, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

Just wondering guys...
I got defected last night for having a chrome air cleaner (crank case vented through carby spacer plate) and having a shorter exhaust then what the car originally came out with :\

Anyone else been defected for having extremely common muscle car mods? hah :|

$10 says it was a Highway plod from Albury/Wodonga!

**Burnout** · 17-03-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

$10 says it was a Highway plod from Albury/Wodonga!

Friend o' yours is he....

**GasoLane** · 17-03-2012, 03:11 PM

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Friend o' yours is he....

Yeah right

pottery beige · 17-03-2012, 03:15 PM

ive been through defect stations and policemans have said..

whats that..

not sure ive just bought the car..

cool on your way.....

was only the NOS solenoids..........

xisled · 17-03-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by XCwillo

Just wondering guys...
I got defected last night for having a chrome air cleaner (crank case vented through carby spacer plate) and having a shorter exhaust then what the car originally came out with :\

Anyone else been defected for having extremely common muscle car mods? hah :|

If it was a Victorian cop just make sure he has not ticked the box which says roadworthy needed.