ford territory worth keeping

[superbird225]

hey peeps i have a 2004 ford territory that i received off some friends that were moving to canada and couldnt trade it in so i picked the old girl up for 5 gs
but the problem is its still on finance so i cant purchase it untill they pay it out..
but long story short its been 1 half years of driving it insuring it and repairing the car as little as i can till i know that it will be mine etc... done a contract for a year it was meant to be paid off.
anyway my dilemma is it needs alot of repairs and i mean alot...
eg front diff bushes which k frame needs to be dropped
the engine has done 289000ks so not much life left in her. and before i got it went 30000ks between services.
all bushes in suspension need doing
ball joints
4 new tyres
interior falling apart power e windows tailgate struts ahhhh the list is endless
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so what should i do
currently the car is out of rego and sitting in the shed because i dont want to put more money into something that i dont even own
should i still buy it say in a year for the agreed price of $5000
if they have paid it off in a year as they still owe $15000 on it.
or should i give it back as is to their parents and forget about it
ahh forgot to mention in the last year i have spent $3000 on repairs
so give it back
or keep it and pay $5000 for it when and if they pay it out which who knows when.
so help me out peeps

[Franco Cozzo]

If it still has finance on it, run.

[superbird225]

thats what i think but the missus wants a few anwsers to help out
the other thing is i always wanted to do a 351 conversion on a new car if possible
so 351 territory haha

[Hayden1]

Originally Posted by superbird225

thats what i think but the missus wants a few anwsers to help out
the other thing is i always wanted to do a 351 conversion on a new car if possible
so 351 territory haha

good luck fitting a 351 in a terri haha

[Mechan1k]

Originally Posted by superbird225

thats what i think but the missus wants a few anwsers to help out
the other thing is i always wanted to do a 351 conversion on a new car if possible
so 351 territory haha

can't fit an engine that is older than the vehicle itself.
Also would need to pass the current Euro emmissions standard at the time the vehicle came onto the market.

[XR Martin]

They dont intend to pay out the finance if they have moved to Canada...

[superbird225]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

They dont intend to pay out the finance if they have moved to Canada...

they have still been paying $500 a month but they said it would be paid of 6 months ago but we found out they purchased a exporer over in canada and they still owe $15000 to date so in a year and half they paid $5000 of there $20000 loan so i can expect the territory will be parked for at least a year untill i know they have paid the loan or just give it back and cut losses and put $5000 into my coupe and ute haha

[b2tf]

walk away. all that hassle for a car that isnt worth much and is almost at the end of it's usable life.

[RHR]

Run run run. Did I say run?

[XR_6falcon]

I would not touch it, god know how much it will cost you in the end.

[superbird225]

yeah think i have decided
give it back for sure
i keep telling the wife its going to cost at least 4gs after we pay 5 and then
its a $9000 car before we even get it regoed
thanks everyone

[GasoLane]

Lets see if I've got this right.....

You've paid over $3,000 in repairs for a car that's out of rego, isn't yours, has done nearly 300,000kms and needs almost a full rebuild inside and out, and then pay some people (who still owe money on the car) $5,000 !!

Asking if it's worth keeping is a trick question, right?

[duaned]

Tell the finance company where it is and tell them to take it! (assuming the payments are no longer being made)

[nstg8a]

im with everyone else, give it back, wash your hands of it and think how much better your bank account is looking...

[XR Martin]

Or start parting it out to get some of your money back

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Or start parting it out to get some of your money back

Awesome advice.
Part out a vehicle that does not legally belong to him.
Im sure the owners and the financiers wont mind one bit either.
But i guess your going to back track and say you were just joking.............

[Iggypoppin']

I agree, run....not worth your time, you can pick up a B series or AU with less klms for that money, easy.


then I spotted your comment about the terri's motor having 289,000 klm and therefore "not much life left in her"..not sure what that means, ford inline 6 engines are hardly broken in at that stage!

[GT]

I'd be letting it go. Friends of mine have just sold their lovely black Terri Ghia (4 years old with 90,000kms on it for $17,000. Was immaculate - they just wanted a quick sale. There will be heaps of bargains in the next year as fuel keeps climbing and the economy gets tougher ....... and it will.

Gaela

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

I agree, run....not worth your time, you can pick up a B series or AU with less klms for that money, easy.


then I spotted your comment about the terri's motor having 289,000 klm and therefore "not much life left in her"..not sure what that means, ford inline 6 engines are hardly broken in at that stage!

Yeah but with 30k service intervals it would be fairly sludged up inside.

[superbird225]

Originally Posted by Iggypoppin'

I agree, run....not worth your time, you can pick up a B series or AU with less klms for that money, easy.


then I spotted your comment about the terri's motor having 289,000 klm and therefore "not much life left in her"..not sure what that means, ford inline 6 engines are hardly broken in at that stage!

yes i know these motors can do 500 000ks easy but with the neglect this car received on the motor gearbox and everyday maintenance i would be surprised if the car has another 30,000 in it before something goes bang.
i already replace awd transfer case in it 3months after i got it. i dont plan on putting anything else in it..
we wrote to the owners last night told them to organise someone to pick it up as we dont want it ...
hopefully

[Chilliman]

Originally Posted by superbird225

we wrote to the owners last night told them to organise someone to pick it up as we dont want it ...
hopefully

Someone will probably be 'round to pick it up soon...from the finance company

[302 XC]

IF there is money owing on it , and there somehow near the 90 days in arrears (calculated on a bit missing here and a bit missing there )
The repo man will have this in their scope already
There o/s bud, they aint ever interested in spending the 15K to payout a car that youll pay them 5k for
End of the day,it aint yours , never will be and your pouring good $$$ into it

Park it up , walk away , tell the friends no deal

[calais]

Wow..... cant believe its even a question in your mind.....

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.... its a duck.

Run. Dont look back.

[Olbucko]

Flog it off to the wreckers and try and get some of your money back, the people that are trying to sell it to you are only taking you for a ride.

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by RPI

Flog it off to the wreckers and try and get some of your money back, the people that are trying to sell it to you are only taking you for a ride.

Wow.
Dumbarse idea of the month.

[302 XC]

Originally Posted by RPI

Flog it off to the wreckers and try and get some of your money back, the people that are trying to sell it to you are only taking you for a ride.

Cant be sold to the wreckers , its legally not his


As many have said "Run forest run"
Id be running from it faster than kathy freeman

[Olbucko]

Originally Posted by 302 XC

Cant be sold to the wreckers , its legally not his


As many have said "Run forest run"
Id be running from it faster than kathy freeman

This is of course,"correct" . But Superbird was crazy in the first place for trying to buy an encumbered car in the first place. How did he manage to insure it if he did not own it? The people that took his money obviously had no intention of paying the finance Co, They have not only ripped off the finance Co, but also their "friend". I guess that the only thing that he can do is move the car from his property, Inform his "friends", go lick his wounds, and have nothing more to do with the car or his former friends

[superbird225]

Originally Posted by RPI

This is of course,"correct" . But Superbird was crazy in the first place for trying to buy an encumbered car in the first place. How did he manage to insure it if he did not own it? The people that took his money obviously had no intention of paying the finance Co, They have not only ripped off the finance Co, but also their "friend". I guess that the only thing that he can do is move the car from his property, Inform his "friends", go lick his wounds, and have nothing more to do with the car or his former friends

the car was on a lend to buy contract ...so basically we drove it for a year and it was meant to be paid off in that time and we pay $5000 for it then.. we paid non owners insurance etc..
we have been driving it for a year and half now done some repairs on it thinking it would be ours in this time...
but for the last 6 months we didnt spend a thing on it and its now run into the ground

we were never going to buy an encumbered car thats just crazy, we were borrowing it until it was no longer encumbered, and they have been paying it off, they hoped to get a loan in canada (from either a bank or family) to pay it out in that year, but all that fell through and no banks will lend to them until they've been living there longer, they are paying the minimum amount on it and the loan term ends the end of 2013... which is still too far away to wait!

i also forgot to mention i was left with there 5 year old staffie dog, because they are banned in canada... so i have there car and dog haha

but yeah basically.. me and my dog need to still run and go lick our wounds, and have nothing to do with them or the car.

[302 XC]

Originally Posted by RPI

This is of course,"correct" . But Superbird was crazy in the first place for trying to buy an encumbered car in the first place. How did he manage to insure it if he did not own it? The people that took his money obviously had no intention of paying the finance Co, They have not only ripped off the finance Co, but also their "friend". I guess that the only thing that he can do is move the car from his property, Inform his "friends", go lick his wounds, and have nothing more to do with the car or his former friends

The car as we know isnt legally his, and never would have been till the said ex owners paid the debt
It doesnt matter if it was left to said friend here to look after and maintain, its still owned by the finance company and always will be till the loan is paid in full
I dont recall where the people who are custodians of said territory that they paid some money for it
I wouldnt even go as far as contacting a finance company over it
Id wipe my hands all together and have nothin to do with it
It seems like a big web of lies

If i offered you a car i owe 15K on , and said "You use it ,maintain it ,while i pay the 15K loan , then you can buy of me for 5K" would you honestly do that

Noone would , and if they did as BA barackus said "I pitty the fools"

[IceValk85]

hey least you got the dog from the divorce lol!

Ice