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From: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...0-2862,00.html
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So, we have an "epidemic" of drivers with 10, 11, 12+ points, and they want to double the points? What is it about Victoria that has brought about this epidemic? I have my own ideas - would love to see statistics showing a breakdown of demerit points. I suspect that our ridiculous speed camera tolerance would have something to do with the epidemic. Well, that and people's crap driving. |
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Obey traffic law = No ticket. :sm_drool:
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the way they are going in Victoria we will all be on push bikes before long. But if they did that no revenue oh no wait but speed cams/traffic fines aren't revenue raising are they just ask the private company that runs the mobile speed cams in Victoria...............
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When you do 700km every week, you have to drive for a living in a well maintained car, then to be penalised while driving safely but accidentally creep 4 kph over the limit is ridiculous. Comments like this belong on the pedestrian and i hate all cars forums, im sure it exists. Policing should be about safety.:sm_drool:
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As far as I know, Vic has the tightest tolerance on cameras, and also seems to be the least transparent as to the placement of cameras and signage warning drivers of where the cameras are. eg. in NSW, they have three rather large signs leading up to every fixed camera... you'd have to be blind to miss it. In Vic, there's a huge sign, but it's anywhere up to a km or so from where the actual camera is. |
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[QUOTE] The speed camera tolerance in Western Australia is set ridiculously low. The Assistant Commissioner of Traffic believes that drivers should only be given 1 km/h tolerance which is the in built error factor in the Multanova speed camera.[QUOTE] http://www.policespeedcameras.info/foi.html
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"Technical data on the Multanova 6F - Ka band (Australia): ... Traffic margins of error: 25 - 100 km/h: ± 3 km/h 100 - 250 km/h: ± 3% (under rounding up to next integral value) ..." So if the accuracy of the measuring device is only +/- 3km/h, and they allow a "tolerance" of 3km/h - then essentially they give you no tolerance whatsoever, and it is possible to be booked whilst going exactly on the speed limit. |
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I drive everyday too, about the same amount of 'km's. maybe more and usually all day. Have for the past 23 years since I got my licence and I can glance at the speedo quite regularly and still not run over old ladies, puppy dogs and other small fury animals, BUT I can do this and know pretty much how fast I am going AND I don't even have cruise control. It's called throttle control and car craft. If this is a concept that has you baffled then you might as well not drive anymore as YOU are the one not in control of your vehicle at any given time. Policing is about safety and if you can not control your car by not driving it over the posted speed limit, then....are you not in control of it? and therefore out of control? and therefore not safe? The privilege of being able to have a license means that you also have a responsibility to obey the traffic laws, if you can't do that then you lose the privilege of holding a drivers license. Simple. Please don't misunderstand me, I am not so naive as to not believe that a 3kph tolerance is an excessive tolerance rule, I live in NSW so I don't have to put up with this so I do empathize with you. This is probably the reason why so many Victorians are about to lose their licenses. Lobby the Government to force police to raise tolerances on speed detection equipment. You pay taxes for politicians to do things like this on your behalf...might as well take advantage of it. Put the petition on here, I'll sign it. ![]()
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Get some balls people, rather than hiding behind a poncy knee jerk statement. I'm off to have coffee with Harold Scruby, just trying to find my cardigan. ![]()
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I guess my poncy knee jerk point is that most people are incapable of doing what is expected of them and blame everyone and everything else except themselves because we are too embarrassed to admit we were wrong. I'm a hypocrite, same as everyone else on this forum...but I can drive under the speed limit and still get to where I am going without my head exploding.
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SA has had this for years. Its a great idea for when the most accidents happen (long weekends) If your aware about double points it makes you very alert and on your best driving behaviour.
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Thought this was already the norm in Vic. Many times I've heard on the news that it will double demerits.
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Has been done before in vic.... the boss lost double demerit points last easter for 86 in an 80..
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Metropolitan - Chadstone/Oakleigh to be exact! ...
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It's been double demerits in NSW over public holidays etc for a few years now..
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who cares - do not get caught - if you must go over the limit, be aware of your surroundings
i have yet to be given a fine during a holiday period, so it would not have affected me yet |
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spewin if you run a light speeding say bye license doesnt have to be by much
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If you are silly enough to run a light while speeding well you should be just dragged out of the car and shot you fool How many innocent people have been killed and injured this way ???? ![]() |
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I thought this was done every long weekend/ holiday period?
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Its fair enogh as these weekends are 'crazy'......the bit i hate is 3 yrs to regain the points lost....It's just too harsh.....It should 2 yrs...And alot of fines are for a ridulous few k's over!!!
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just make sure you are 3km/h under the legal speed limit at all times, its easy to do just concentrate more on your speedo than on the road . remember at 3 very dangerous km/h over the limit you will have to pay.
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They complain about so many unlicensed drivers on the road but they made the 3 yr rule.......ITS TOO HARSH and people put themselves in worse conditions in the necessaty to get to work ....
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they have had double demerits on holidays and long weekends over here in Perth for as long as i have been here
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if the police and politicians want to reduce speeding, why not have $1000 dollar fines for 5km/h or more over the speed limit? could it be that it may work too well and deprive them of revenue?
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