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My neighbour and mate from the gym drops in with his BA XR8 ute he just bought. He used to love my old supercharged xr8 and said for some time he was going to buy one.
It's a 4 Spd auto with 162000km, looks ok condition wise and said he paid $8000. I just can't get past the 162000km, I know plenty people have falcons with these km and more but if you have done the km yourself that's a completely different story. I wouldn't buy one with 162000km already on it. Personally I wouldn't touch a car with more than 100,000km, happy to drive it to 200,000km and beyond as I'd maintain the car properly but I'd never trust a used car with 162000km not knowing how it's been treated. |
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i just bought a car with 314,000km on the clock
its over 30yo and runs like a wet dream |
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My EL had over 200k when I bought it nearly 5 years ago.
Replaced the fluids, most of the the wear and tear items and its been faultless.
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Hasn't your AUIII got over 100,000 klm's ?.
Gee Hulk give your neighbour a break, he's obviously wanted a BA XR8, and now he has one, you go find one that has under 100 thou for that price or better still go buy a brand new one with zero klm's for that price because that is how it seem's you think it should work. |
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What does it matter. If you are going to keep it or really want it and have the coin, km's don't matter. Suspension replaced, bodywork done, engine rebuilt, rewired whatever. Everything can be replaced or rebuilt.
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I prefer to buy low K cars too, however you pay a premium for that privilege.
If the car has been well maintained, a high K car can be in better condition than a poorly maintained low K car. As with everything in life, there's always a positive which comes from a negative, and in this case, it's price. High K cars are very cheap...
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pretty much all of those low k's are of it blowing the tyres off up the street on the rev limiter low km moot point ![]() |
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Kilometres don't kill cars , drivers do
I have a BA XR6 in immaculate condition 4 airbags , leather with 285,000 KM with the original transmission The car is a peach It will do another 100,000KM with out a problem because I look after it We also recently sold a 99 Mitsubishi Verada wagon 217,000 KM - possibly the best car we have ever owned Regularly serviced , always garaged, washed & polished We put it on car sales and the first people that saw it bought it KM's were never mentioned by the buyers as it was irrelevant after they inspected and test drove the car Last edited by neptune blue; 18-05-2014 at 06:56 PM. |
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Isn't it obvious?
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lol at 162 thou
i bought the xh at 184 thou and thats low buy it with low kms and things will soon start going wrong with it, as they do. sometimes its better to buy something with the higher kms and all the works already done to it by prev owner in fact id rather buy the higher kms car with everything done and replaced than the lower km car thats had nothing done to it and is just about to need the head done (learnt the hard way)
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i brought my AU GHIA at 230,000 now 242000 still going strong only issue is the camshaft synchronizer squealing but i don't drive it often enough
as the old saying goes doesn't matter how many K's the car has as long it's got a good service history and well looked after then there shouldn't be and worries ps.. are you buying the car Hulkster if not who cares how many K's the bloody car's got ![]() ![]() i wonder with you sometimes Hulk with your threads you post ![]() cheers dean |
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Of course you can, your neighbor has proven that already.
![]() It's only just run in. What a stupid comment, so once your cars go over 100k km you scrap them as no one should buy it? Last Landcruiser I owned I bought at 750.000km, sold it at 870.000km, never missed a beat in the three years I owned it.
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![]() I really wanna know about how many kms it is considered 'run in'. I have heard it for anything for couple of thousands kms, up to 220,000kms. It has just become one of those terms that me nothing to me because it seams overused. |
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Maybe I'm the mrs mangles of the ford community. ![]() But we all like to assess other peoples decisions, Two tests that suggest to me my neighbours decision was iffy... 1. If you go to a tuner, let's say bluepower or herrods with a 162000km xr8 (or any ford), then ask them to bolt on a kenne bell blower (or similar), they would think twice. But under 100,000km they wouldn't have any reservation. There has been a few threads about this where tuners just about turn cars away due to the km and associated risk of failure. 2. Go to a car dealer with 162000km and see what sort of trade in they give you. Probably just remove you from their yard. Then look in their yard, any car over 150,000km they don't offer any warranty. I'm not saying cars are no good with these km if you own them and take good care, you put the km on yourself, but buying one with those sorts of km, really chancing your arm, good price but rocks or diamonds. |
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.....no, we all don't.....
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I bought my XG with 262,000k on it, now has 417,000k.
Look after them and they'll look after you. Ed ![]()
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Yup.... sure can!
When my Festiva was written off with 205K km it had been a 1 owner car, with perfect service history and nil issues. It amazed many people that it didn't leak oil, returned the factory consumption figures and still presented 'as new' after 10 years. I then helped a mate buy a car that was 5 years newer, had only 70k km and was also apparently 'well looked after'... It was a dog of a car, abused, neglected and had an engine so gunked up you would think it was still running the factory oil. Km is irrelevant. How the car is looked after and serviced is more important. I would rather a 300k km that has a paper trail of servicing and maintanance that comes from a good home over a car with 120k km that has no history because the 'log books were lost in the last move'.... Nothing wrong with high km cars, and the discount that usually comes with them.
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A favourite subject of mine.. the old low kay versus high kay...
I have seen some shocking low kay cars and some high kay cars that are absolute gems. It all boils down to how the owner looks after the car, sadly most people don't these days. I have 3 cars at home the old faithful AU 210k on the clock which really has only had oil changes in the last 100k and rattles on every road... The Terri at 127k that drives like a dream and my BA 568k that also drives like a dream with not one rattle or squeak... And not a service book in sight cos I do all the work on them.... If your mate bought a 162k car and he likes it & it drives well, no bumps or rattles then good on him... If he maintains it and looks after it, it will give him many many years of reliable service.
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The old mental barrier of 100000 miles went the way of the dogs many years ago. Somehow we went metric and translated that to 100000kms. Tis all about how it's been driven, accident history, service history and quality. And given how easy it is to fake some of those I'd be making calls not reading books. But otherwise 162000 is nothing.
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No you can't buy a car with 162000ks - especially a Ford. Apparently they fall apart.
People have had them with well over 500000ks but that must be in an alternate universe.
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i just recently bought a xr8 with 250000kms on the clock, nothing wrong with it as the car has been looked after and maintained. My 77 XC has close to that on it and is on its third engine now.
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What kms would you expect a car of that age to do? I doubt you would find a BA XR8 with under 100k
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Owes him 62k, he wants 25k for it now. What price is low kays really worth? |
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My EL has 235000km and its got low comp on all 6 cylinders, so i think km doesn't mean anything, id rather my Falcon with 350,000km but actually looked after than what mine is, been neglected by many previous owners.
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I had a 93 Corolla wagon that had 330km when I got it, then 392km when I rolled it into a ditch. I thrashed the daylight out of it, never serviced it, seldom checked fluids etc, and it ran better than a new one. No smoke, great compression etc.
My GF's dad Toyota Carib,which is always serviced, always warmed and never thrashed, with the same engine (4A-FE) as my old Corolla, just spun a bearing at 182km. Kms are somewhat irrelevant when it comes to cars of the same age. Every other component still ages over that time. The lower k car may have spent much of it's life idling in traffic. Last edited by Motorbreath310; 18-05-2014 at 12:18 PM. |
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Yes, you can. Bought my XH 2.5 years ago with 119K on the clock, genuine and unmolested. 126K on her now.
I wouldn't bat an eye at buying a +250K Falcon, barely 1/2 way through it's life. Some of us can't afford what we want, some of us can. It's practicality before toys for my budget. Cheers!
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My Honda daily has 155,000km on the clock and it's perfect. No issues at all and does not look like developing any. I could sell it today with full confidence the buyer will be getting a damn good car.
My Coupe was showing around 190,000km when I bought it nearly 10 years ago and the motor was pretty much shagged. Having said that. I bought it with the full knowledge the previous owner had driven it hard. The odometer reading is only part of the story.
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To be honest, if it was Japanese I probably wouldn't bat an eyelid. But with Falcons its the luck of the draw really. That's just my experience anyway.
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