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Originally Posted by Trevor 57

so, are you happy to work for free? Would you do hours and hours of work to not be paid for it? Yet you expect TAFE to work the same - As i said previously with RPL YOU are the one claiming you can meet the requirements of the training package, then it is up to YOU to prove it. We have to spend hours mapping what you claim meets the requirements of the current training package to what the requirements (training package) actually say. If we believed everything every person was claiming about their life's learning without PROOF then we would be issuing qualifications fraudulently - is that OK?

However you quote "RPL' but what I read is 'credit transfer'. Credit transfers are a very different thing to RPL. ALL training providers across Australia are obliged to accept the Nationally accredited qualifications issued by other registered training organisations (RTO's) - it is a legal requirement

As for the fees, back in the day your fees were fully subsidised by Government (read tax payer), well guess what they aren't any more. You were happy for the Government (read tax payer) to fully fund your learning????? but not happy to contribute any of your own money now? Sounds hypocritical to me - pay more tax then, then your enrolment fees will go down - see the lunacy?

Government has cut the **** out funding that TAFE's get for training delivery, so much that they had to start charging an enrolment fee to cover costs. The off-shoot of that is there isn't as much money around to buy / upgrade training equipment

I don't know why you are all shocked by this - it would be the same in your business (or life) if you had your income cut by up to 80%, (in some cases, actually 90%)

Go to training.gov.au and do a search of your qualification, then look at the Units of Competence that make up the qual, then take the time to look at just one Unit of Competency and take particular note of the 'Performance Criteria', the 'knowledge evidence', the performance evidence, etc. You have to meet all that for us to deem you 'competent' and it means you proving it more than once, as it says a 'range of conditions'


Here is one I just picked at random - MEM31319 - Certificate III in Refrigeration and Air Conditioning, you much achieve '96 points' to be awarded that qual - you do the search to see what that means

One of the Units of Competency from that qual is MEM05012 - Perform routine manual metal arc welding - https://training.gov.au/Training/Details/MEM05012. Go your hardest and look at the above listed stuff and see how you go meeting the requirements if you are qualified in that field

You all know so much - go your hardest

Yes I've worked for free over the years, that'd be called passion and striving towards a goal.

In regards to the RPL mine was for a course related to a certificate I already had, Horticulture trade and I was applying for Landscape construction 3. I supplied everything that was requested of me, the lecturer just couldn't be bothered checking the references and course numbers on my USI which incidentally was the same number as the unit he was trying to 'sell' me. I was told directly it was too much work. My immediate thought was "When did you loose your passion and drive?" So I did exactly the same unit, incidentally with Horticulture students (to fill the night course numbers) for a second time to get exactly the same number unit number as I already had.

As for fees "back in the day YOUR fees were fully subsidised by the government" I've always paid cash up front for all of my courses, no payment plans or hand outs, how is that being a hypocrite? You seem to be making alot of assumptions of my circumstances.

I know where you're coming from, its not easy to hear critisisms of you're industry, we're much the same but we don't get offended, we take things on board and move forward and strive for a better future.